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[McCeltic]

Ebenso

[Stony]

... das sind wahre Fans:

http://www.krone.tv/Video/Sport/St.-Pau ... deo-228643

[Bhoy]

So mein Internet funktioniert auch wieder

[danrik]

irgendwie ĂĽberrascht mich das nich^^

More than 80 percent of Scotland's top refs have failed an SFA test on the laws of the game.

Of the 31 Category One officials who took part in the 30-question written exam, only FIVE achieved pass marks.

And the astonishing results will send yet more shockwaves through the corridors of power and Scottish football.

Refs chief Hugh Dallas was taken aback by the findings and immediately put plans in place to help improve our whistlers' knowledge.

In some countries such low marks would mean the officials could no longer take charge of further senior games. The test took place at a Spanish winter training camp in February.

The pass mark was 80 per cent but a document obtained by MailSport reveals over half of the Category One officials scored 70 per cent or under. Indeed, one whistler scored just 50 per cent.

All the officials were given their results in an email that also contained remarks from the Referee Development Department. And the ref with the 50 per cent score was told: "This is unacceptable. We will inform the Referee Committee of your results in the test.

"Concerns will be raised about your lack of knowledge and understanding of the Laws of the Game.

"The Development Department will furnish you with a test paper as a matter of urgency and you will sit it under examination conditions."

A score of between 70 per cent and 79 per cent was achieved by nine refs and they were informed: "If we operated in the same way as several other countries you would now require to be re-examined.

"Warning bells should be ringing and failure to achieve a pass mark is concerning for the department. We will be looking for a significant improvement in the next test."

The highest mark was 89 per cent and the ref was told: "A very good knowledge - you have to be congratulated for attaining this pass mark."

An SFA spokesperson last night tried to play down the findings and claimed officials were now tested about their knowledge every month.

The spokesperson said: "This was the first in a series of hypothetical awareness exercises. These exercises now take place at every monthly referees' meeting in a 10-question format.

"They are designed to test officials on some of the most unlikely and unusual scenarios they may encounter.

"The improvement in that awareness has been apparent since these assessments became part of our monthly meetings.

"I'm sure most people would agree that implementing such an assessment based on the Laws of the Game can only be a benefit to refs and the game in general."

This report will heap further pressure on our whistlers during a turbulent season.

Celtic have called for the SFA to dismiss ref Dougie McDonald after he admitted lying to Neil Lennon in the aftermath of last month's game between the Hoops and Dundee United at Tannadice.

McDonald tried to cover-up the real reason why he U-turned on a decision to award the Hoops a penalty.

Celtic went on to win 2-1 but the whistler's behaviour sparked a storm.

One of the assistant referees that afternoon, Steven Craven, quit in the wake of the game and claimed SFA bosses had hung him out to dry.

McDonald has yet to resign even though members of the SFA hierarchy feel he should go as soon as possible.

[McCeltic]

Mich ĂĽberrascht im Moment auch nichts mehr. Ich sags immer wieder, so lange ein Dallas am Ruder sitzt, haben wir nichts zu lachen. Diesen Scherenschleifer muss man schnellstens absetzen.

[danrik]

jetz wirds lächerlich


Referees in Scotland have voted to strike next weekend, putting the entire SPL programme at risk.

The referees Union north of the border has voted for the action, following a constant barrage of criticism.

The issue has stemmed from referee Dougie McDonald's decision to over-turn a penalty decision against Celtic in their game at Dundee United.

Warned

McDonald later admitted to lying about the reason behind his decision and was warned by the Scottish Football Association.

Earlier this week Celtic chairman John Reid called for McDonald to resign, claiming his position had become 'completely untenable'.

Following McDonald's admission of deception, SFA chief executive Stewart Regan has promised an overhaul of how referees are disciplined.

Celtic manager Neil Lennon was also critical of McDonald episode and has since questioned refereeing decisions after their defeats to Rangers and Hearts.

The decision to take strike action was reached at a referees' union meeting held on Sunday afternoon.

There are six Scottish Premier League scheduled for next weekend. There is also a full card in the Scottish Football League.

The ALBA Challenge Cup final between Queen of the South and Ross County at McDiarmid Park is also under threat, as will any Scottish Cup replays.

BBC Scotland has learned that officials are concerned that their integrity is constantly being questioned and there are increasing fears over personal safety as a result of public criticism from managers and the media.


Strike

Scottish Premier League referees threatened to strike over pay in 2008 but the threat was lifted when a review was set up to study their wage demands.

There were also rumblings of discontent last season, with head of referee development Hugh Dallas clashing with then-Motherwell boss Jim Gannon and accusing him of undermining the confidence of officials with his repeated criticism.

Last month, Hamilton manager Billy Reid warned that he would understand if referees were to refuse to officiate because of the excessive criticism directed at them

[McCeltic]

Die sollen doch in den Streik treten und sich ihre schlechten Leistungen einfach mal allsamt auf Video anschauen. Dann sind die für längere Zeit beschäftigt. Am Ende ist das aber überhaupt kein Streik, sondern eine Einladung zu einer Party von Hugh Dallas. Natürlich wird gleich jeder beim Empfang mit einem Rankers Schal und Trikot ausgerüstet und zur Krönung läuft Simple the Best. Es gibt ja Schiris, die den Song betsens auswendig können. Und wenn zum Schluss alle gehen rufen noch alle den Abschiedsgruss: We are the People.

[McCeltic]

Ein Streik würde den Blauen mit ihren ganzen Verletzten sicherlich nicht ungelegen kommen. Immerhin spielen die ja am Mittwoch auch noch CL gegen Manchester United. Ja wenn schon zusammen gearbeitet wird, ( SFA, Rankers, Hugh Dallas ) dann gleich mal richtig. Zusammen fädeln die Jungs das schon sehr clever ein.

[McCeltic]

irgendwie ĂĽberrascht mich das nich^^

More than 80 percent of Scotland's top refs have failed an SFA test on the laws of the game.

Of the 31 Category One officials who took part in the 30-question written exam, only FIVE achieved pass marks.

And the astonishing results will send yet more shockwaves through the corridors of power and Scottish football.

Refs chief Hugh Dallas was taken aback by the findings and immediately put plans in place to help improve our whistlers' knowledge.

In some countries such low marks would mean the officials could no longer take charge of further senior games. The test took place at a Spanish winter training camp in February.

The pass mark was 80 per cent but a document obtained by MailSport reveals over half of the Category One officials scored 70 per cent or under. Indeed, one whistler scored just 50 per cent.

All the officials were given their results in an email that also contained remarks from the Referee Development Department. And the ref with the 50 per cent score was told: "This is unacceptable. We will inform the Referee Committee of your results in the test.

"Concerns will be raised about your lack of knowledge and understanding of the Laws of the Game.

"The Development Department will furnish you with a test paper as a matter of urgency and you will sit it under examination conditions."

A score of between 70 per cent and 79 per cent was achieved by nine refs and they were informed: "If we operated in the same way as several other countries you would now require to be re-examined.

"Warning bells should be ringing and failure to achieve a pass mark is concerning for the department. We will be looking for a significant improvement in the next test."

The highest mark was 89 per cent and the ref was told: "A very good knowledge - you have to be congratulated for attaining this pass mark."

An SFA spokesperson last night tried to play down the findings and claimed officials were now tested about their knowledge every month.

The spokesperson said: "This was the first in a series of hypothetical awareness exercises. These exercises now take place at every monthly referees' meeting in a 10-question format.

"They are designed to test officials on some of the most unlikely and unusual scenarios they may encounter.

"The improvement in that awareness has been apparent since these assessments became part of our monthly meetings.

"I'm sure most people would agree that implementing such an assessment based on the Laws of the Game can only be a benefit to refs and the game in general."

This report will heap further pressure on our whistlers during a turbulent season.

Celtic have called for the SFA to dismiss ref Dougie McDonald after he admitted lying to Neil Lennon in the aftermath of last month's game between the Hoops and Dundee United at Tannadice.

McDonald tried to cover-up the real reason why he U-turned on a decision to award the Hoops a penalty.

Celtic went on to win 2-1 but the whistler's behaviour sparked a storm.

One of the assistant referees that afternoon, Steven Craven, quit in the wake of the game and claimed SFA bosses had hung him out to dry.

McDonald has yet to resign even though members of the SFA hierarchy feel he should go as soon as possible.

Komisch, daĂź ich an anderer Stelle dieses Posting mitsamt der Hugh Dallas Mail ( Papst ) ĂĽberhaupt nichts finden kann. Bestimmt irgendwo verloren gegangen.

[McCeltic]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 216271.stm

[1967]

Celtic ist ja wie gesagt nicht der einzige Verein, der so manches seltsam findet

Hier die Hearts vom 31.10.2010

"I would not like to comment on any specific situation in the game in Scotland, but I would like to suggest that the refereeing standards need to go up significantly.

"If there is poor performance on the park by players it does not mean that the referee needs to match that level.

"Referees need to come out after the game and comment and explain their decisions. Refereeing is a big part of the game and people want to see high standards, hear the reasons behind decisions and gain clarification. Human error is part of the game, but it should be in minimal proportion.

"There is no place for a high proportion of human error meaning low standards - it can easily be a cover for bias and match fixing.

"If the Scottish FA is interested in showing there is no bias and minimizing the risk of match fixing the organisation needs to continue working to improve refereeing standards, by implementing the best practices available in the world and being innovative to insure that the Scottish game is not a place for reputation damaging situations.

"And there should be no double standards - all clubs need to be treated equally, not just those that dominate the game. I do not remember any other situation where referees have been so strictly cautioned when it involved any other club outside the Old Firm.

"In an era where players, managers and clubs are suspended or fined heavily for their actions on the pitch, it will leave a bitter taste in the mouths of every honest employee and supporter of football clubs around the country that match officials could act as deceptively as has been reported.

"It is time that the Scottish FA implements a proper system of accountability otherwise the integrity of our game will be further diluted by future incidents. How long might it be before attempts by a referee to verbally engineer a situation to suit his own purposes spills into a referee actively engineering situations through actions rather than words? Only a fool would say 'That could never happen'.

"However it is also crucial that our referees are helped in every way possible. In addition to the actual support that a proper system of accountability would provide for them, they should be encouraged to be transparent in their actions.

"When players and managers are interviewed in the minutes after a game, referees should also be given the opportunity to explain decisions to supporters.

"We would also urge the Scottish FA to continue its lobbying in world football for the implementation of video technology. We appreciate this is a wider issue but it has to be adopted in time otherwise the spotlight will remain on the officials as much as the players and managers.

"Until then, honesty amongst our match officials remains paramount to the game. Those officials that fail that basic character trait should realise that the football pitches of Scotland are no place for them. High standards and not double standards - this is what we need to raise the game to a higher level."

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-p ... s-in-full/

Aber sollen die anderen im Traumland leben, das die bösen Katholiken, der Papst und die IRA Schuld am gegenwärtigen Klima im schottischen Fussball sind. Je eher der Sauhaufen voller Lügen um Hugh Dallas ausgemistet ist umso besser. Da lass ich diese dumme Anti-Papst E-Mail von Dallas einfach mal außen vor.

[danrik]

http://www.celtic.vitalfootball.co.uk/a ... p?a=222391

nur schade das keiner davon redet, dass die beschwerden zum großteil völlig gerechtfertigt waren...

[1967]

Dallas ist mMn sowieso untragbar geworden, der muss weg aus der SFA wenn das Verhältniss sich irgendwann noch einmal normalisieren soll, und Regan täte gut daran, auch die sonstige Führungsetage mal richtig auszumisten. Die "Referees" sollten sich ihren Streik nochmal gut überlegen, nachher stellt man fest, wie reibungslos die Sache auf einmal ohne sie läuft. Die schaufeln sich noch ihr eigenes Grab...
Was mich doch etwas amüsiert ist die Tatsache, dass sich die selben Leute, die während der Strachan-Ära jede Woche seitenlang über die ach so korrupten völlig Celtic ergebenen Schiris geheult haben, jede angeblich falsch gegebene Ecke seziert und jede gelbe Karte als klares Indiz für einseitiges Pfeifen zu Gunsten von Celtic hochstilisiert haben, nun zum Anwalt der angeblich ja so unter Druck gesetzten Schiris machen wollen, die völlig zu Recht wegen der völlig haltlosen, aber gleichzeitig auch geradezu Volksverhetzenden Anschuldigungen, die natürlich nur von Celtic kommen, in Schutz genommen werden müssen. Nur mal zur Erinnerung, noch Anfang diesen Jahres hat der Referree Willie Collum (gut, der Name ist seitdem auch etwas in Verruf geraten ) Mordrohungen von Rangers Fans bekommen, weil er im Spiel Celtic gegen St.Mirren einen völlig unzweifelhaften Platzverweis ausgesprochen hatte und gleichzeitig Lehrer an einer katholischen schule war, und das ist ja wirklich kein Einzelfall gewesen. Wo waren da eigentlich die anderen Schiris und insbesondere die Rangers(fans) mit ihren jetzigen Moralorgasmen?

Naja, die Morddrohnungen waren dignified. Davon verstehen Tims eben nix

Das mein ich ja. Das muss man noch nicht mal Fans nehmen, Walter Schmitz ist ja auch keiner der Baldrian im Blut hat, im Gegenteil. Ein weiterer Artikel, allerdings sehr lang http://www.scotzine.com/2010/11/the-bla ... -football/

Ein Auszug daraus:

January 1st 2010: Walter Smith was left seething after referee Willie Collum refused to rescind the red card that he dished out to the striker during Rangers’ 7-1 demolition of United. Smith believes that Collum bottled out of a change of heart and that the whistler’s explanation for sticking to his guns was riddled with inconsistencies.

January 2009: Then Falkirk manager John Hughes criticised referee Willie Collum after his side’s 3-1 defeat at Ibrox, questioning a penalty awarded to Rangers as well as the decision to send off a player from both teams.

September 2009: Walter Smith and Jim Jefferies criticise referee Steve Conroy in a 0-0 draw at Rugby Park between Rangers and Kilmarnock. Conroy dished out 11 yellow cards and sent off Pedro Mendes of Rangers and Killie’s Manuel Pascali, as well as sending Walter Smith to the stand for protesting against Mendes’ dismissal. Smith questioned the referee’s judgement not only regarding the red card but on the game as a whole.

March 2008: Walter Smith sent to the stand following a touch-line bust-up with then Hibs boss Mixu Paatelainen. Smith blew his top when Nacho Novo was sent off for a two footed lunge on Hibs’ Thierry Gathuessi. Although Smith’s anger was directed at the Hibs bench, who he accused of trying to intimidate the official to get his players booked.

May 2009: Walter lashed out at Stuart Dougal after his side were reduced to ten men in their 2-1 win over Aberdeen. Defender Madjid Bougherra was given his marching orders just before half time, after his assistant said that the Algeria deliberately kicked Dons keeper Jamie Langfield in the head after he slid in with his studs high. Smith was incensed with the decision, “It was an incredible ordering off. The linesman has stated to me that the player deliberately kicked the keeper on the head, which I found absolutely incredible when I saw it on TV. For him to make that kind of assumption was incredible.”

November 2008: Walter Smith launched a blistering attack on linesman Tom Murphy after his side drew 0-0 with Motherwell at Fir Park. The official wrongly chalked off a Kris Boyd goal for offside. He singled out Murphy and slaughtered him again after doing so before when he failed to flag Scott McDonald offside when the striker opened the scoring in Celtic’s 3-2 win in April 2008. His comments on that day:

“It was a poor decision by the linesman. I think TV replays show quite clearly that Kris Boyd was onside. Mr Murphy was quick to allow a Scott McDonald goal at Celtic Park last season. And he was quick to disallow that one tonight.”

It was implied in certain circles emanating in and around Ibrox Park thereafter, that Murphy was a Celtic fan, their proof? He has an Irish sounding surname!

Even in Europe Walter Smith has had a few choice words for referees, and yet the Rangers fans seem to think that he is dignified throughout. In September 2009, Smith accused Swedish referee Jonas Eriksson of bottling out of doing his job as his side were demolished by Sevilla at Ibrox. Smith lashed out at Eriksson for failing to award Rangers a stone wall penalty after Sevilla full back Abdoulay Konko brought Steven Naismith down in the box, just as he was about to score.

Smith said, “At Champions League level you would want a better decision from such a clear-cut circumstance. You’d expect better at this level. They have to make strong decisions. That is why they are the best referees.”

Sound familiar? It sounds awfully like Lennon’s comments on hoping the Collum is strong and decisive in his Old Firm debut.

September 2010: Jim Jefferies reported referee Willie Collum to the SPL for speaking to him like a two-year-old kid. Jambo Jim was angered after he claimed that linesman Francis [obviously a Celtic supporter] Andrews had ignored a blatant offside in the run up to James Forrest’s opener. Jefferies asked for an apology from Collum, but was even more enraged at the official’s attitude and launched a formal complaint with the SPL match delegate John Connolly [ He sounds like a Celtic fan also!].

September 2008: Killie keeper Alan Combe blasts Mike McCurry for giving Celtic a penalty claiming that Shunsuke Nakamura dived to win the spot kick, and that the recent revelations in a newspaper about McCurry conducting a Simply the Best sing-song in his church, put him under huge pressure.

August 2008: Charlie Richmond incurring the wrath of Dundee United for refusing a penalty kick against Celtic, when Gary Caldwell brought down Roy O’Donovan at Tannadice. Linesman Billy Baxter at Pittodrie, giving out a faulty offside call against Da Marcus Beasley, which cost Rangers a winning goal against the Dons. Iain Brines failing to see Celtic’s Stephen McManus knock the ball over the line to score against Falkirk, and whose manager then John Hughes, accused the referee of targeting him of previous comments made.

[McCeltic]

Celtic ist ja wie gesagt nicht der einzige Verein, der so manches seltsam findet

Hier die Hearts vom 31.10.2010

"I would not like to comment on any specific situation in the game in Scotland, but I would like to suggest that the refereeing standards need to go up significantly.

"If there is poor performance on the park by players it does not mean that the referee needs to match that level.

"Referees need to come out after the game and comment and explain their decisions. Refereeing is a big part of the game and people want to see high standards, hear the reasons behind decisions and gain clarification. Human error is part of the game, but it should be in minimal proportion.

"There is no place for a high proportion of human error meaning low standards - it can easily be a cover for bias and match fixing.

"If the Scottish FA is interested in showing there is no bias and minimizing the risk of match fixing the organisation needs to continue working to improve refereeing standards, by implementing the best practices available in the world and being innovative to insure that the Scottish game is not a place for reputation damaging situations.

"And there should be no double standards - all clubs need to be treated equally, not just those that dominate the game. I do not remember any other situation where referees have been so strictly cautioned when it involved any other club outside the Old Firm.

"In an era where players, managers and clubs are suspended or fined heavily for their actions on the pitch, it will leave a bitter taste in the mouths of every honest employee and supporter of football clubs around the country that match officials could act as deceptively as has been reported.

"It is time that the Scottish FA implements a proper system of accountability otherwise the integrity of our game will be further diluted by future incidents. How long might it be before attempts by a referee to verbally engineer a situation to suit his own purposes spills into a referee actively engineering situations through actions rather than words? Only a fool would say 'That could never happen'.

"However it is also crucial that our referees are helped in every way possible. In addition to the actual support that a proper system of accountability would provide for them, they should be encouraged to be transparent in their actions.

"When players and managers are interviewed in the minutes after a game, referees should also be given the opportunity to explain decisions to supporters.

"We would also urge the Scottish FA to continue its lobbying in world football for the implementation of video technology. We appreciate this is a wider issue but it has to be adopted in time otherwise the spotlight will remain on the officials as much as the players and managers.

"Until then, honesty amongst our match officials remains paramount to the game. Those officials that fail that basic character trait should realise that the football pitches of Scotland are no place for them. High standards and not double standards - this is what we need to raise the game to a higher level."

http://sport.stv.tv/football/scottish-p ... s-in-full/

Aber sollen die anderen im Traumland leben, das die bösen Katholiken, der Papst und die IRA Schuld am gegenwärtigen Klima im schottischen Fussball sind. Je eher der Sauhaufen voller Lügen um Hugh Dallas ausgemistet ist umso besser. Da lass ich diese dumme Anti-Papst E-Mail von Dallas einfach mal außen vor.

Was war denn mit dem Killi Trainer beim Spiel zu Hause gegen Inverness (1-2) ? Auch ausgerastet nach dem Spiel und sich den Schiri vorgeknöpft. Es ist wahrlich nicht so, daß nur wir unzufrieden sind mit diesen Vögeln, weit gefehlt. Was pfeiffen denn seit langer Zeit die Schiris unter der Regie von Hugh Dallas zusammen ? Dazu noch die Pappnasen an der Aussenlinie ? Da weiss ich schon vor dem Spiel, was da wieder auf einen zukommt. Da weiss doch die rechte Hand nicht, was die linke tun soll. Die Leute würden bei uns nicht einmal in der Landesliga pfeiffen und das ist sicherlich nicht übertrieben diese Aussage. Ich kann mich wie im Falle WS nach einem gewonnenen Spiel in Mirren ( trotz nicht gegebenen regulären Tor ) auch hinstellen und sagen, ja gut, kann passieren usw., bla, bla, bla. Was wäre gewesen, wenn die dadurch das Spiel nicht gewonnen hätten ? Schon klar, WS ist ein Ehrenmann der hätte seine Klappe danach auch gehalten, daß ich nicht lache. Ist ja nicht so, daß sich ein WS nicht auch schon auf der Tribüne wiedergefunden hat. Lenny hat vollkommen Recht, mit dem was er macht. Da bereitest du deine Mannschaft auf das Wochenende vor, damit dann solche Kasper deine ganze Arbeitswoche ruinieren. Schaut euch doch mal diese Vögel an, die man da ran lässt. Gibt der Schiri einen Elfer, hat der Mann aussen aus 25 Meter die Aktion besser gesehen als der Herr in Black, der gerade mal 5 Meter weg stand. Und als Krönung gibt es Schiedsrichterball, wer hat denn so etwas schonmal gesehen ? Und nach dem Spiel sind sich die Herren in Black plus 4. Offizieller ja nicht mal mehr einig, was ihre Aussagen angehen. Bei den Blauen gegen Inverness hätte es ganz klar einen Elfer für Inverness, nach Bodycheck von Weir geben müssen. Muss man sich natürlich auch nicht aufregen nach dem Spiel, man hat ja wenigstens einen statt keinen Punkt geholt. Dann das OF, wieder ein Elfer für die Blauen, naja da liegt im Rücken vom Schiri ein Blauer, geb ich halt mal einen Penalty. Der Depp hat die Situation überhaupt nicht gesehen, ganz klar zu sehen. Dann liegste bei den Hearts mit 0-2 hinten, müsstest einen ganz klaren Elfer bekommen, was ist, der Blindfisch auf dem Feld hat wiederrum mal wieder die Augen verschlossen gehabt . Wir hätten sicherlich nicht mehr gewonnen, aber ein Punkt hätte man in den letzten 20 Minuten durchaus noch holen können. Man könnte noch einiges mehr aufzählen, aber ich hab echt keine Lust mehr. Und nun zu guter letzt wollen diese Affen doch tatsächlich auch noch steiken ? Super sag ich, endlich mal ein Wochenende, wo man sich nicht ärgern muss und eines kann man den Schiris dann auch bescheinigen: Ein Spieltag ohne Fehlentscheidungen.

[McCeltic]

Dallas ist mMn sowieso untragbar geworden, der muss weg aus der SFA wenn das Verhältniss sich irgendwann noch einmal normalisieren soll, und Regan täte gut daran, auch die sonstige Führungsetage mal richtig auszumisten. Die "Referees" sollten sich ihren Streik nochmal gut überlegen, nachher stellt man fest, wie reibungslos die Sache auf einmal ohne sie läuft. Die schaufeln sich noch ihr eigenes Grab...
Was mich doch etwas amüsiert ist die Tatsache, dass sich die selben Leute, die während der Strachan-Ära jede Woche seitenlang über die ach so korrupten völlig Celtic ergebenen Schiris geheult haben, jede angeblich falsch gegebene Ecke seziert und jede gelbe Karte als klares Indiz für einseitiges Pfeifen zu Gunsten von Celtic hochstilisiert haben, nun zum Anwalt der angeblich ja so unter Druck gesetzten Schiris machen wollen, die völlig zu Recht wegen der völlig haltlosen, aber gleichzeitig auch geradezu Volksverhetzenden Anschuldigungen, die natürlich nur von Celtic kommen, in Schutz genommen werden müssen. Nur mal zur Erinnerung, noch Anfang diesen Jahres hat der Referree Willie Collum (gut, der Name ist seitdem auch etwas in Verruf geraten ) Mordrohungen von Rangers Fans bekommen, weil er im Spiel Celtic gegen St.Mirren einen völlig unzweifelhaften Platzverweis ausgesprochen hatte und gleichzeitig Lehrer an einer katholischen schule war, und das ist ja wirklich kein Einzelfall gewesen. Wo waren da eigentlich die anderen Schiris und insbesondere die Rangers(fans) mit ihren jetzigen Moralorgasmen?

Da wĂĽrden die Blauen ihr bestes Pferd im Stall verlieren. Und das gemosere damals ĂĽber die Schiris von den Blauen klingen dir auch noch in den Ohren ? Gerade diese Luschen sollten ihre Klappe ganz weit aufreissen.

[McCeltic]

Ich erhoffe mir von der einberufenen Sitzung im Hampden heute, daß Fucking Dallas endlich den Laufpass bekommt. Und in einem sollten wir uns auch noch im klaren sein, unter normalen Umständen dürfte es in dieser Form weder noch die Blauen noch die Hearts so in der SPL geben, das ist Fakt.

[McCeltic]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/footbal ... 216271.stm



MĂĽssen wir am Weekend wohl ohne Fussball in Schottland auskommen.

[Dinamo Baden]

Kann mann wohl nix machen wenn schiedsrichter sich mit kollegen solidarisieren die offentsichtlich falsch pfeifen

Btw :

Jemand heute mittag SWR3 gehört? Kam nen bericht wie sich Britische Comedians über Irlands schulden lustig machen,unter anderem hat einer vorgeschlagen die Iren sollen doch auswandern hat ja bei der letzten Hungersnot auch gut geklappt

[McCeltic]

Kann mann wohl nix machen wenn schiedsrichter sich mit kollegen solidarisieren die offentsichtlich falsch pfeifen

Btw :

Jemand heute mittag SWR3 gehört? Kam nen bericht wie sich Britische Comedians über Irlands schulden lustig machen,unter anderem hat einer vorgeschlagen die Iren sollen doch auswandern hat ja bei der letzten Hungersnot auch gut geklappt

Ich verstehe das. Zu deinem weiteren Posting sag ich nur, es werden noch weitere Länder kommen die Hilfe benötigen.

[Dinamo Baden]

Kann mann wohl nix machen wenn schiedsrichter sich mit kollegen solidarisieren die offentsichtlich falsch pfeifen

Btw :

Jemand heute mittag SWR3 gehört? Kam nen bericht wie sich Britische Comedians über Irlands schulden lustig machen,unter anderem hat einer vorgeschlagen die Iren sollen doch auswandern hat ja bei der letzten Hungersnot auch gut geklappt

Ich verstehe das. Zu deinem weiteren Posting sag ich nur, es werden noch weitere Länder kommen die Hilfe benötigen.

Klar werden weitere länder kommen,das kartenhaus bricht zusammen.
Was das thema schiris angeht werden wir sehen mĂĽssen was kommt,wo kommen wir hin wenn jedes mal gestreikt wird wenn jemandem die aussagen net passen.