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[Celtic Frost]

Den UJ Smiley kann man eigentlich auch spĂĽlen. Braucht keine Sau

[McCeltic]

Den UJ Smiley kann man eigentlich auch spĂĽlen. Braucht keine Sau

Keine Ahnung wie ich den anklicken konnte. Ausgerechnet auch noch ich, unglaublich.

[danrik]

die smileys sind echt lustig, könnt mich andauernd zerkringeln, vor allem bei dem hier

[Dinamo Baden]

@ Lubo

Da läuft er vorneraus unser held

[whytea]

ich denke es ist nun, angesichts der neuen jhungs zeit das wir uns von crosas trennen! ich persönlich mag ihn, leider konnte er sich nie an die physische seite in der SPL gewöhnen und somit leider auch nie durchsetzen (im gegensatz zu meinem eindruck von kayal). wobei ich denke aus ihm könnte nen ziemlich guter spielmacher/ballverteiler werden.

und ich hoffe das misun gut angespitzt in der schlange steht!



my 5 cents, nebenher mal so

[Bhoy]

Ich trink mal auf dieses Forum hier und den Sieg unserer Bhoys! Hab mir nen Kasten Flensburger gekauft, ich muss sagen ich hab schon bessere Bierchen getrunken - aber egal wir haben ja bekanntlich auch schon schöner gewonnen

Up the Tic

[whytea]

hehehe...hört hört!!!


...glaube die plĂĽrre verkauft sich ĂĽberwiegend wegen des tollen verschluĂźes

[Bhoy]

hehehe...hört hört!!!


...glaube die plĂĽrre verkauft sich ĂĽberwiegend wegen des tollen verschluĂźes

Ich denke deswegen hab ichs auch gekauft, aber psssst

[Lubo]

Die ganzen Veltins Mixbiergetränke laufen gut zur Zeit bei mir. Das Problem da dran ist, dass man bei übermäßigem Verzehr am nächstes Tag meint, man schaut den ganzen Tag durch ein Aquarium durch.

Cheers Bhoy, war ein geiler Sieg heute!

[whytea]

bei dem v+ curuba, ist der trick auch besonders erstmal einen übermässigen konsum festzustellen, das zeug schmeckt wie saft und dreht sich wie nen bier

[Bhoy]

Die ganzen Veltins Mixbiergetränke laufen gut zur Zeit bei mir. Das Problem da dran ist, dass man bei übermäßigem Verzehr am nächstes Tag meint, man schaut den ganzen Tag durch ein Aquarium durch.

Cheers Bhoy, war ein geiler Sieg heute!

Ich pack diese Mixgetränke ja eigentlich nicht so, entweder Bier oder nicht Ab und an geht im fränkischen Biergarten ein Radler, aber jeder soll natürlich trinken was er will und ich stoß trotzdem mit dir an

Prost Kameraden! PS: Die Liverpooler können ja heute mittrinken, haben ebenfalls 1-0 gewonnen!

[rob]

Ich trink mal auf dieses Forum hier und den Sieg unserer Bhoys! Hab mir nen Kasten Flensburger gekauft, ich muss sagen ich hab schon bessere Bierchen getrunken - aber egal wir haben ja bekanntlich auch schon schöner gewonnen

Up the Tic

schlecht ist das nicht - mixgetränke bin ich aber jetzt nicht so der fan.

hauptsache gestern mal gewonnen.

[danrik]

wenn ich bei meiner schwester in hessen zu besuch bin, in einer stadt mit dem wunderschönen namen Linsengericht, dann trink ich gern mal eine Flasche Schwarzer Hahn^^ schmeckt ein wenig wie guinness

[danrik]

Celtic majority shareholder Dermot Desmond has used the closing of the transfer window to demand Uefa make a radical shake-up of football club finances.

Desmond wants European football’s governing body to place a cap on player wages and club borrowing to restore competitiveness to the sport.

The Irish tycoon also fears there could be a number of clubs forced to the wall unless major change is implemented.

He said: “I think there should be regulation and rules throughout Europe that places a cap on how much a club can borrow.

“There should also be a cap on its relation between wage bill and revenue like there is in baseball over in the United States.

“I think it’s important to have some general rules in there that clubs are not being leveraged and not being jeopardised.

“Some clubs will definitely go out of business in the next couple of years – clubs that are not sustain-able.”

Asked if that would rebalance things in terms of competition, he said: “Yes, it would. There has to be some equalisation process for true competitiveness.

“I can say it would be good in England and in Scotland if there was a limit on the amount clubs can spend and borrow.”

However, Uefa president Michel Platini says their new rules which kick in from 2011/12, ensuring clubs only spend what they earn, will be enough to end the “total anarchy” that surrounded player transfers.

Platini said: “For years and years we were in total anarchy. But clubs asked for these rules because they knew they could not continue. We can see already they look to balance their books.”

[Celtic Frost]

Celtic majority shareholder Dermot Desmond has used the closing of the transfer window to demand Uefa make a radical shake-up of football club finances.

Desmond wants European football’s governing body to place a cap on player wages and club borrowing to restore competitiveness to the sport.

The Irish tycoon also fears there could be a number of clubs forced to the wall unless major change is implemented.

He said: “I think there should be regulation and rules throughout Europe that places a cap on how much a club can borrow.

“There should also be a cap on its relation between wage bill and revenue like there is in baseball over in the United States.

“I think it’s important to have some general rules in there that clubs are not being leveraged and not being jeopardised.

“Some clubs will definitely go out of business in the next couple of years – clubs that are not sustain-able.”

Asked if that would rebalance things in terms of competition, he said: “Yes, it would. There has to be some equalisation process for true competitiveness.

“I can say it would be good in England and in Scotland if there was a limit on the amount clubs can spend and borrow.”

However, Uefa president Michel Platini says their new rules which kick in from 2011/12, ensuring clubs only spend what they earn, will be enough to end the “total anarchy” that surrounded player transfers.

Platini said: “For years and years we were in total anarchy. But clubs asked for these rules because they knew they could not continue. We can see already they look to balance their books.”

Im Prinzip hat er natürlich recht, nur: Diese Denkweise entspricht nicht der von liberalen Staatswesen, heisst: Auch FC's sind irgendwo in diesen Staatswesen eigebettet, zumindest in Westeuropa und zudem können Zahlungen auch ausserhalb von irgendwelchen Bilanzen und Buchhaltungen von Fussballclubs vorgenommen werden. Die UEFA verfügt weder über die Mittel noch die Macht solches zu unterbinden, also wäre am Schluss wieder der Staat (die EU) gefragt, diesbezüglich die Mittel und die Gesetze für ein solches Anliegen bereit zu stellen, was sie aus formaljuristischen Gründen aber kaum tun werden. Man betrachte als Anschaungsbeispiel auch das Gerangel um die Boniexzesse und die versuchten Eingriffe von Regierungen in der Finanzindustrie. Auch dorrt besteht nicht genügend Konsens um zu einer einverträglichen Lösung zu kommen, warum soll dies denn im ökonomisch wesentlich unwichtigeren Fussball ausgerechnet anders sein? Und solange der Marktwert von Spielern in der Bilanz abgebildet werden dürfen, oder zumindest werden und solange auch bei einer FC AG das Thema Ek Quote resp. deren Erhöhung auf ein wirtschaftlich sinnvolles Mass kein Thema ist, solange wird sich auch bis zum 'Big Bang' nichts ändern, und wie wir aus der jüngsten Geschiche eben gelernt haben, auch nachher wohl nichts. Und von Freiwilligkeit halte ich in diesem Geschäfts schon mal gar nichts. Keine Zeit für Gentlemen agreements.

[Dinamo Baden]

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[danrik]

DERMOT Desmond dreams of the day Celtic and Rangers take their place in the English Premiership and insists he will not rest until it comes true.

The Parkhead majority shareholder has no qualms about leaving Scottish football behind, believing they will thrive in the Old Firm's absence.

Desmond, who admits he wakes up every morning thinking about Celtic, is convinced his club and their bitter rivals would enhance what is widely regarded as the best league in the world.

And, at the same time, the Irish billionaire is adamant both the SPL and the national team will benefit if the Glasgow giants get their wish to move south of the border. Desmond said: "The Premiership would never have been founded 20 years ago but it has turned into a great success.

"I'm a believer if you have content and tradition like Celtic and Rangers have then they add something to the Premier League.

"I think it will be good for football in Scotland, for football in England, in Britain and in Europe.

"If it is something that betters all the leagues I don't see why I should give up and say 'no, it will not happen'. I think there is a huge mis-match in investment in Scotland.

"The budget Celtic and Rangers have dwarfs the budgets of the other clubs. It is very hard for the other clubs to compete although they do compete very well with the funds available.

"If Celtic and Rangers moved south it would enable those clubs to be more competitive and not to have the financial pressures because Celtic and Rangers are in their league.

"I think Celtic and Rangers bringing up the Arsenals, the Uniteds, the Liverpools, the Manchester Citys and the Spurs will encourage and develop football in Scotland.

"If you see these great Premiership players playing on a weekly basis it will improve and encourage more Scottish people to play football. I think it will also give Scotland a greater identity."

In a rare and revealing interview the Celtic powerbroker admitted the club is always foremost in his thoughts despite having other business interests which have helped him amass a ÂŁ1.5billion fortune.

The Cork-born tycoon has developed a strong emotional attachment with his boyhood heroes since gaining a 37 per cent stake in the Glasgow giants.

Desmond plans to pass on his shareholding to his children although stresses he will not allow his heart to rule his head by running up huge debts in a bid to buy success.

He said: "Celtic is an emotional investment. When you wake up in the morning you start thinking about the club, especially in the transfer window.

"The transfer window is always intensive because there is a lot of activity so your mind is concentrated on that. Having an input into the decisions you have to inform yourself and do a bit of research to see what is happening out there.

"You have to divide it into two. If it is an emotional investment this is an investment where you are saying you don't want to make a return.

"At the same time it is a legacy thing. I hope that my shareholding will be left to my children or to some people who have an interest in maintaining or developing Celtic.

"So it's not something I want to realise as a financial gain but if it's a legacy thing you have to make sure you are creating a proper organisation and also balancing the books.

"You can't leave a legacy if it's going to be in a deficit or leave debt and other liabilities. You need a strong board and chief executive who can disassociate themselves from media pressure and fan pressure.

"There are emotive and short-term pressures to buy success and that when you buy success it will redeem some of the investment you have put in.

"I don't necessarily agree with that as that is a short-term policy. A lot of clubs have done that in the Championship, the Premiership and the SPL and it has jeopardised the stability of those clubs.

"There can be a personal element when they are confronted by supporters and they feel for their egos they should invest monies they will never recoup."

Desmond was at the helm during the Martin O'Neill years and played a major part in the success under Gordon Strachan. But while he admits to a degree of culpability over the disastrous Tony Mowbray era he feels he can't win with a section of fans who give him pelters.

He said: "It is continuous (the abuse). If I had fortunes of all the owners in the Premiership it wouldn't be enough to invest in the club and get success.

"I'm continually splashing the cash and investing money and I try to explain I'm a supporter like them. I see the same match, I get the same enjoyment and pain out of results.

"The fans agenda is they want the club to succeed. They are not really interested in how much is being spent as long as success is brought.

"If the club has success then it's the managers and players who get the praise, never the shareholders or the board. In fact they are criticised when we win and when we lose.

"You try to pick the best manager you think will do a good job and recruit players to build a strong team but you are not always right when making those decisions."

[McCeltic]

Verabschiede mich mal für 2 Wochen von euch. Werde mit meiner Familie 2 Wochen in der schönen Türkei verweilen.

[danrik]

schönen urlaub

[Celtic Frost]

na dann. Döner Abend